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		<title>By: punkie</title>
		<link>http://www.punkiespelts.com/2009/massage-therapy-and-happy-endings/comment-page-1/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>punkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John,  Thanks for your comment, it is a simple and easy solution that can help other Therapist who do not offer &#039;illegal&#039; services.

Namaste</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,  Thanks for your comment, it is a simple and easy solution that can help other Therapist who do not offer &#8216;illegal&#8217; services.</p>
<p>Namaste</p>
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		<title>By: John Oh</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Oh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 02:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can well imagine that this is a real problem for massage therapists (especially in places where sexual services are illegal).  I work as a male escort (in Sydney, Australia - where this is legal), with a special interest in massage and &quot;happy endings&quot;, so for me it is easy.  My clients know what to expect and can ask for what they want.

Many massage therapists that I see advertising in Sydney explicitly state that their service is non-sexual.  I think that this is a really good thing to do.  Communication is the key here (as with so many things).  

If a massage therapist is concerned about being expected to provide a sexual service, then just state upfront in your advert, reading material, sign on the wall, that your service is not sexual.

It seems like a simple and effective solution to the problem to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can well imagine that this is a real problem for massage therapists (especially in places where sexual services are illegal).  I work as a male escort (in Sydney, Australia &#8211; where this is legal), with a special interest in massage and &#8220;happy endings&#8221;, so for me it is easy.  My clients know what to expect and can ask for what they want.</p>
<p>Many massage therapists that I see advertising in Sydney explicitly state that their service is non-sexual.  I think that this is a really good thing to do.  Communication is the key here (as with so many things).  </p>
<p>If a massage therapist is concerned about being expected to provide a sexual service, then just state upfront in your advert, reading material, sign on the wall, that your service is not sexual.</p>
<p>It seems like a simple and effective solution to the problem to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 03:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have family who are LMT&#039;s and we all feel the same way about  the &#039;happy ending&#039;, that being it&#039;s beyond inappropriate. Besides being completely insulting and degrading to the therapist, it is illegal. 

For example, when was the last time your doctor was cupping your balls, or performing a vaginal exam, and you figured you&#039;d just ask, &quot;Hey, why not just jerk me off since you&#039;re already halfway there?&quot;. 

Ridiculous. Keep that image in mind next time you consider illegally sexually harassing the next LMT you encounter. ;) Great article, thanks for sharing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have family who are LMT&#8217;s and we all feel the same way about  the &#8216;happy ending&#8217;, that being it&#8217;s beyond inappropriate. Besides being completely insulting and degrading to the therapist, it is illegal. </p>
<p>For example, when was the last time your doctor was cupping your balls, or performing a vaginal exam, and you figured you&#8217;d just ask, &#8220;Hey, why not just jerk me off since you&#8217;re already halfway there?&#8221;. </p>
<p>Ridiculous. Keep that image in mind next time you consider illegally sexually harassing the next LMT you encounter. <img src='http://www.punkiespelts.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Great article, thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: punkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>punkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make a very good point.  If we could legitimately separate the two professions it would be less confusing for the public.  Your perspective is honest and well appreciated.  Thank you Paul for adding your $0.02.

Namaste</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a very good point.  If we could legitimately separate the two professions it would be less confusing for the public.  Your perspective is honest and well appreciated.  Thank you Paul for adding your $0.02.</p>
<p>Namaste</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article.  And I think you get it right -- if prostitution were legalized, this wouldn&#039;t be a problem.  Individuals who were of legal age and wanted to openly advertise this service could do so.

But in the uptight, Puritanical USA, this will probably never happens.  And herein lies the problem, the &quot;rub,&quot; if you will allow me the pun.

There are a certain number of licensed massage therapists who are willing to provide a &quot;happy ending,&quot; an orgasm to their clients at the conclusion of the massage.  Most reserve this sort of service for loyal and trusted clients, I would imagine.

I won&#039;t speculate on percentages, etc.  But I will tell you that personally, I have seen at least 10 LMTs over the past couple of decades that provided this service.

Yet, because this is illegal, they must maintain the &quot;front&quot; that they do not provide any such services.  So they will still have signs in the lobby warning against unethical behavior, signs in the room telling clients that any sexual requests or inappropriate behavior will not be tolerated.

And yet, they still do it.  Why?  The obvious reason is bigger tips; men (including myself) are willing to pay as needed for these services.  (And please note -- I am referring only to manual stimulation, e.g. a &quot;hand job.&quot;  Other activities which involve exchanges of bodily fluids are unsafe and are a different category of prostitution, in my opinion.)

Also, I think some LMTs see an orgasm as the natural conclusion to a massage, the most surefire way to encourage a complete relaxation of the human body.  To me, a high-quality therapeutic massage concluded with an orgasm is one of the most serene experiences in life.

I do still see other LMTs who don&#039;t provide &quot;extras,&quot; and I respect their boundaries and don&#039;t attempt to push them.  (Indeed, when I do find an LMT willing to provide extras, it is almost always him/her that makes the first move.)

But I find those massages are often unsatisfying, as I experience a degree of sexual arousal that makes relaxation nearly impossible.  This is particularly true if the therapist spends time on parts of the body I happen to find erogenous, such as my thighs or abdomen.  Often, I will masturbate myself to orgasm after the therapist has left the room and concluded the massage.

So while I understand your point that the ethics of your profession tell you that sexual contact is not allowed, many LMTs ignore that code of ethics and do it anyway.  I believe that their own personal ethics tell override institutional ethics, and they don&#039;t believe they are doing anything wrong.  (Or, for a small minority, perhaps they do believe it is wrong, but they need/want the additional income.)

As I said, I&#039;ve been getting massages for just over 20 years, all over the US.  And I&#039;ve consistently found a significant number of LMTs willing to provide happy endings.  It&#039;s not the majority of LMTs, at least in my experience.  But I would say, just guessing, that 25-35% of LMTs I&#039;ve known have been willing to provide that service.  And of the remainder, some of them may have been willing to do so if I&#039;d had the opportunity to become a more loyal and frequent client.

Just tossing my $0.02 in here, please feel free to flame away.  But I do wish that providers of sensual massage could advertise their services openly.  If they could do so, no one would ask the strictly therapeutic providers for these services.  And wouldn&#039;t that be best for us all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article.  And I think you get it right &#8212; if prostitution were legalized, this wouldn&#8217;t be a problem.  Individuals who were of legal age and wanted to openly advertise this service could do so.</p>
<p>But in the uptight, Puritanical USA, this will probably never happens.  And herein lies the problem, the &#8220;rub,&#8221; if you will allow me the pun.</p>
<p>There are a certain number of licensed massage therapists who are willing to provide a &#8220;happy ending,&#8221; an orgasm to their clients at the conclusion of the massage.  Most reserve this sort of service for loyal and trusted clients, I would imagine.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t speculate on percentages, etc.  But I will tell you that personally, I have seen at least 10 LMTs over the past couple of decades that provided this service.</p>
<p>Yet, because this is illegal, they must maintain the &#8220;front&#8221; that they do not provide any such services.  So they will still have signs in the lobby warning against unethical behavior, signs in the room telling clients that any sexual requests or inappropriate behavior will not be tolerated.</p>
<p>And yet, they still do it.  Why?  The obvious reason is bigger tips; men (including myself) are willing to pay as needed for these services.  (And please note &#8212; I am referring only to manual stimulation, e.g. a &#8220;hand job.&#8221;  Other activities which involve exchanges of bodily fluids are unsafe and are a different category of prostitution, in my opinion.)</p>
<p>Also, I think some LMTs see an orgasm as the natural conclusion to a massage, the most surefire way to encourage a complete relaxation of the human body.  To me, a high-quality therapeutic massage concluded with an orgasm is one of the most serene experiences in life.</p>
<p>I do still see other LMTs who don&#8217;t provide &#8220;extras,&#8221; and I respect their boundaries and don&#8217;t attempt to push them.  (Indeed, when I do find an LMT willing to provide extras, it is almost always him/her that makes the first move.)</p>
<p>But I find those massages are often unsatisfying, as I experience a degree of sexual arousal that makes relaxation nearly impossible.  This is particularly true if the therapist spends time on parts of the body I happen to find erogenous, such as my thighs or abdomen.  Often, I will masturbate myself to orgasm after the therapist has left the room and concluded the massage.</p>
<p>So while I understand your point that the ethics of your profession tell you that sexual contact is not allowed, many LMTs ignore that code of ethics and do it anyway.  I believe that their own personal ethics tell override institutional ethics, and they don&#8217;t believe they are doing anything wrong.  (Or, for a small minority, perhaps they do believe it is wrong, but they need/want the additional income.)</p>
<p>As I said, I&#8217;ve been getting massages for just over 20 years, all over the US.  And I&#8217;ve consistently found a significant number of LMTs willing to provide happy endings.  It&#8217;s not the majority of LMTs, at least in my experience.  But I would say, just guessing, that 25-35% of LMTs I&#8217;ve known have been willing to provide that service.  And of the remainder, some of them may have been willing to do so if I&#8217;d had the opportunity to become a more loyal and frequent client.</p>
<p>Just tossing my $0.02 in here, please feel free to flame away.  But I do wish that providers of sensual massage could advertise their services openly.  If they could do so, no one would ask the strictly therapeutic providers for these services.  And wouldn&#8217;t that be best for us all?</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon Burch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon Burch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article on an important topic that&#039;s rarely addressed this candidly and in this much detail.
Thanks for sharing your research with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article on an important topic that&#8217;s rarely addressed this candidly and in this much detail.<br />
Thanks for sharing your research with us.</p>
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		<title>By: punkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>punkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may have North Korea and South Korea confused. North Korea is not listed as a human trafficking violator. This is an obvious fact for those who know the political climate of North Korea since the government will not allow the investigation required by any organization to compile the statistics.That being said if the investigation were allowed we could see the violations clearly.  South Korea does in fact have quite a few strikes against them in this area, it is listed as a source, transit and destination country. 

As I noted in the post, you can find more information about human trafficking on humantrafficking.org or follow this link directly to the page for the statistics and facts about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.humantrafficking.org/countries/south_korea&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;South Korea&lt;/a&gt;.

If I had written all of the facts and statistics for all of the countries mentioned in the post it would have been much too long of a read, which is why the link was inserted for reference. 

Thanks for your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may have North Korea and South Korea confused. North Korea is not listed as a human trafficking violator. This is an obvious fact for those who know the political climate of North Korea since the government will not allow the investigation required by any organization to compile the statistics.That being said if the investigation were allowed we could see the violations clearly.  South Korea does in fact have quite a few strikes against them in this area, it is listed as a source, transit and destination country. </p>
<p>As I noted in the post, you can find more information about human trafficking on humantrafficking.org or follow this link directly to the page for the statistics and facts about <a href="http://www.humantrafficking.org/countries/south_korea" rel="nofollow">South Korea</a>.</p>
<p>If I had written all of the facts and statistics for all of the countries mentioned in the post it would have been much too long of a read, which is why the link was inserted for reference. </p>
<p>Thanks for your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article.  But I don&#039;t think that Korea is a hub of human trafficking.  You might want to check your facts (or go ahead and cite some in the first place).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article.  But I don&#8217;t think that Korea is a hub of human trafficking.  You might want to check your facts (or go ahead and cite some in the first place).</p>
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		<title>By: punkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>punkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look forward to those days, Ken.  Thanks for the great comment.

Namaste</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to those days, Ken.  Thanks for the great comment.</p>
<p>Namaste</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Shim, Massage Therapist (RMT)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Shim, Massage Therapist (RMT)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo.  Well said.  It is a matter of time and patience.  In Canada there is a minimum requirement of 2200 hours or basically 3 years of education.  My clients usually get the picture when I tell them that.  Making the profession more difficult to enter helps maintain higher quality standards and a more professional image in the public&#039;s eye.  If we keep going in this manner and keep enforcing minimum requirements and standards across all fields, products and services, it will only be a matter of time until clients are shocked if anyone giving them a massage ever offers a &quot;happy ending&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo.  Well said.  It is a matter of time and patience.  In Canada there is a minimum requirement of 2200 hours or basically 3 years of education.  My clients usually get the picture when I tell them that.  Making the profession more difficult to enter helps maintain higher quality standards and a more professional image in the public&#8217;s eye.  If we keep going in this manner and keep enforcing minimum requirements and standards across all fields, products and services, it will only be a matter of time until clients are shocked if anyone giving them a massage ever offers a &#8220;happy ending&#8221;</p>
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